THEMA: Ungehorsam und Hoffnung vor Wahl in Zimbabwe ?
01 Aug 2013 19:15 #298566
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Hallo ahoberg, die Briten als Verhinderer der Entkolonialisierung Rhodesiens und Mugabe als Konsequenz davon? M. E. ziemlich daneben, ich habe das anders in Erinnerung: GB wollte, aber Ian Smith wollte nicht (zu den britischen Konditionen) und erklärte UDI, auch mit dem Argument, dass Rhodesien nie britische Kolonie war. ZANU und ZAPU intensivierten daher den bewaffneten Widerstand. Mugabe hat bis dorthin und darin keine große Rolle gespielt, war aber Mitte 70er der kleinste gemeinsame Nenner im Powerplay der sog. Frontline Staaten, insb. Zambia/Kaunda und Mozambique/Machel und wurde Verhandlungsführer bei der Rhodesien-Konferenz in Genf/1976. Kein europäischer Staat trägt m. E. historische oder politische Verantwortung für Mugabes Karriere und spätere Handlungen als Präsident (praktische sowieso nicht). Das ist alles hausgemacht und (hoffentlich) bald auch unbedeutend und übrigens: das Wahlergebnis gibt es erst in 4 Tagen
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01 Aug 2013 20:28 #298571
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While ZEC continues to announce the official election results, 1st TV, in interviews with qualified sources, has compiled an unofficial,
preliminary results for the House of Assembly.

Manicaland
Of the 26 seats in the province, Zanu PF won 22 and the MDC-T retained four from their previous 20 seats.

Mashonaland East
Zanu PF has won all 19 seats.

Mashonaland West
To uncertain to call at this stage

Mashonaland Central
Zanu PF won all 18 seats.

Midlands
Preliminary results are still uncertain but indications are for a
large ZANU PF Victory in the province.

Masvingo
All 26 seats in Masvingo have been won by Zanu PF

Bulawayo
MDC-T won all 12 seats.

Matabeleland North
Of the 13 Seats, Zanu PF won 4, MDC-T 8 and one is still unclear.

Matabeleland South
MDC-T Won 9 and Zanu PF won 4

Harare -29
Unconfirmed reports suggest that the MDC has lost Mount Pleasant,
Mbare, Harare North and Harare South.

So far, the MDC led by Welshmen Ncube is yet to win a seat.

1st News emphasizes that although all efforts have been taken to
ensure the accuracy of these results, they are not the official
results a released by ZEC.

The MDC this evening said they were going to challenge the electoral process in court.
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02 Aug 2013 11:33 #298616
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Official Zim Election Results

Zimbabwe Electoral Commission (ZEC) has started announcing results for the harmonized Zimbabwe elections. Looks like Zanu PF might be set for a landslide victory.

Winners below are in bold:

Pelandaba Mpopoma MDC 965, FZC 572, Inp 327, Ind 39, Zapu 140, Zanu Ndonga 74, Ind 45, MDC T 6024, Zapu 134, Zanu PF 2122, AKE 50

Nkulumane: Zapu 335, MDCT 7 045, MKD 37, MDC 1404, FZC 43, Zanu PF 2 494

Chinhoyi: Zanu Pf 8561, MDC T 9 863, MDC 543

Chegutu East 15687 Zanu Pf, MDC T 2 713, MDC 434,

Chegutu West 11 130 Zanu PF, Inp 212, MDC T 7399, MDC 733

Mhondoro Mubaira Zanu PF 10153, MDC T 4473, MDC 847

Hurungwe central: 4267 mdct zanu pf 12 000 sthng zanu pf wins

Norton: Zanu PF 10592, MKD 129, MDC T 9360, MDC T 894

Kadoma Central: PIMZ 220, Zanu PF 9571, MDC T 9005, MDC 959

Sanyati: MDC T 3093, Zanu PF 11 332, MDC 308

Muzvezve: Zanu PF 18832, MDC 569, MDC T 3029

Mhondoro Ngezi: MDC T 3564, Zanu PF 13 476

Chakare: Zanu PF 19540, MDC T 1642

Zaka North: ZANU PF 9733, MDC T 3729, MDC 96

Zaka Central: Zanu PF 10604, MDC 725, MDC T 4158

Zaka West: Zanu PF 7340, MDC T 2896, MDC 484

Chivi North: Zanu PF 8827, MDC T 4149, MDC 317

Bikita South: Zanu PF 9397, MDC 781, MDC T 3659

Chiredzi East: MDC 400, MDC T 2094, Zanu PF 8 926

Chiredzi South: Zanu PF 8148, MDC T 1 937, MDC 508

Chivi Central: Zanu PF 12 559, MDC T 3725, MDC 661

Chivi South: Zanu PF 12 559, MDC T 2755, MDC 879

Gutu Central: Zanu PF 9311, MDC T 3248, MDC 886

Gutu South: Zanu PF 7927, MDC T 3723

Gutu East: Zanu PF 7372, MDC T 3469, MDC 316

Bikita West: Zanu PF 6270, Zanu PF 6052, MDC T 3 863, MDC 415

Masvingo West: Zanu-Pf 7634

As it stands ZANU has taken 25 seats to MDC-T’s 4.

More updates as we get them…
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03 Aug 2013 15:38 #298724
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This received from Geoff Smith analysis of Zimbabwe election

The analysis we have done on this roll shows that it contains at least 1 million dead voters; goodness knows how many absent voters who now reside in the Diaspora.

We know that there are over 350 000 people who are over 85 years old and 109 000 over a hundred years old, one of which – an army officer — is 135 years old.

We found 838 000 duplicate names: same name, same address, same date of birth, different ID numbers. All the ID’s checked were genuine and had been issued by the Registrar General.

We found 500 000 people had been moved out of their resident areas to other electoral districts, 45 000 people had their ID numbers changed without their consent.

Registering voters was a nightmare for the MDC. On the Zanu PF side they simply drew up lists of people and handed them in for registration.

They moved hundreds of thousands of people into strategic areas in preparation for the Poll. Some 250 000 families – over a million people, were settled on farms taken away from their owners in the peri urban areas. They then opened offices there and “sold” small plots of land to homeless people in the crowded towns.

These people were told that they were there by courtesy of Zanu PF and that on the day of the battle they were expected to vote Zanu PF. To reinforce this, their registration details were changed to a selected electoral District and they were told where to vote and that the Party would thereby be able to tell how they voted. Eviction was the threat.

Storm troopers were carefully brought onto the battle field – thousands were accommodated on a farm outside Chitungwiza owned by a Zanu PF company, called Koala Park.

In the Commercial farming Districts they simply told the 500 000 or so “settlers” that any sign of a vote for the MDC would make them lose their land.

The structures of the MDC were smashed and their leadership beaten or killed. In the Tribal areas they told all Chiefs (who were also promised rich rewards) that no voting for the MDC would be tolerated. Headmen – the backbone of rural Africa, were instructed to marshal their people, record names and ID numbers and then arrange for them to vote at a specified polling station.

They were told what would happen to them and their families, homes and livestock, if they voted MDC. With three quarters of all seats in the House of assembly in these areas, this alone guaranteed them victory on the day.
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05 Aug 2013 21:21 #299003
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Hallo,

nachdem am 3.August das offizielle Ergebnis der Wahlen bekannt gegeben wurde, lassen die Reaktionen ausländischer Unternehmen mit Niederlassungen in Zimbabwe nicht lange auf sich warten:

zimbabweelection.com...s-on-policy-concern/

Zudem wird es nicht lange dauern, bis weitere Sanktionen aus dem Ausland folgen werden - ohne Mitwirkung Südafrikas vermutlich aber das Regime Mugabe nicht destabilisieren dürfte.

Viele Grüße,

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11 Aug 2013 15:51 #299828
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Hallo, ich kann da nur sagen: unsere Freunde sind deprimiert, deprimiert, deprimiert. Man spüre offensichtlich eine Depression im ganzen Land :( :( :(
Sie hatten sich so viel erhofft und nichts gekriegt: im Gegenteil sehr viel verloren.

Eine sehr traurige Manaslu
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